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06 April 2004 @ 06:15 am
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/asia-pacific/3601281.stm

Excuse me while I express my condolescences to a people who have prized male births above female births and their present predicament of male bachelorness in old age...

NEENER NEENER NEENER phtphtphtpthtphbbb
 
 
 
indie: catindiefic on April 6th, 2004 02:53 pm (UTC)
part of me wants to believe this will lead to a greater respect for women, but I'm not sure that's the case. Somehow I think this might lead to women being more of a commodity than ever.
Kburgunder on April 6th, 2004 04:23 pm (UTC)
Part of me wants to believe this will miraculously prove Chinese interracial relations.
Kburgunder on April 6th, 2004 04:23 pm (UTC)
prove = improve
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Kburgunder on April 6th, 2004 04:38 pm (UTC)
Eh, there'd be too many men, though. Year by year, I like women more and more.
RocketGirl: Katchooeonen on April 6th, 2004 05:10 pm (UTC)
Hehe! Hear, hear!
Satan's Tilt-A-Whirlsavannarama on April 6th, 2004 05:14 pm (UTC)
"Chinese officials have warned that this gender imbalance could lead to an increase in prostitution, sex crimes and wife-buying. "

Chinese women will have a larger selection of men, but it's not as lighthearted as we imagine; this nation of bachelors, doomed by their parents' generation. Hurting women hurts everyone.
Stax: frustratedstaxxy on April 6th, 2004 07:03 pm (UTC)
and so it begins.
this is part of why China terrifies me.

Consider, if you will, a nation of bored, lonely, horny bachelors. Lots of time on their hands and no real way to meet women UNLESS THEY JOIN THE MILITARY - where they get to travel around.

That's a lot of men who are eager to find a wife in another country, who live in a country that has constant aspirations of expanding their land share.

It really sounds to me like the begining of a *really* scary war. As these young men get older they will be less and less satisfied with their plight. It is human nature.
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Khirilkhiril on April 6th, 2004 09:10 pm (UTC)
Re: and so it begins.
Or you could read the book of the same title, written by Neal Stephenson. ;)

But, since you're Staxxy, I suspect you already have.
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Staxstaxxy on April 6th, 2004 10:14 pm (UTC)
Re: and so it begins.
I have read Diamond Age, I have also bought it about 6 times because we foist it off on everyone. ;)

Neal Stephenson is one of Our Favorite Authors. We have everything he has written, including the stuff written as Stephen Bury and the stuff he did for Wired magazine. :D

gotta watch those spoonerisms man.
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Staxstaxxy on April 6th, 2004 11:26 pm (UTC)
Re: and so it begins.
true enough.
Yes I'm T♥ny!king_amygdala on April 6th, 2004 07:28 pm (UTC)
They cite "premature female infant deaths" as one of the reasons for so many boys...

I wonder if that's as horrifically barbaric as the images it conjures.
wookie71 on April 6th, 2004 07:53 pm (UTC)
China (Sex ratio)

at birth: 1.09 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.1 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1.06 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.89 male(s)/female
total population: 1.06 male(s)/female (2003 est.)

United States (Sex ratio)

at birth: 1.05 male(s)/female
under 15 years: 1.05 male(s)/female
15-64 years: 1 male(s)/female
65 years and over: 0.71 male(s)/female
total population: 0.97 male(s)/female (2003 est.)

The article is mostly giving examples from rural and sometimes isolated villages. One of number they gave 2,000,000 men each year are born and are going to be single (is that really that big of a number?).

China:
Area: 9,326,410 sq km
Population: 1,286,975,468 (July 2003 est.)

United States

Area: 9,158,960 sq km
Population: 290,342,554 (July 2003 est.)

It’s easy to judge, but imagine if the United States had four times the population and 15+ times the history, that would be China. Imagine what kind of stupid ass decisions we would be making right now. I bet we would do worse.

No real point here, I’m just playing a little “devils advocate”

Oh, and women are com-pli-cated :)

(Figures taken from the CIA World Fact Book)
Kburgunder on April 6th, 2004 08:43 pm (UTC)
Oh, and women are com-pli-cated :)

BAH! I still hold that women perhaps emotionally context switch, in general, more quickly than men. That doesn't necessarily make them complicated, though perhaps bewildering if you're not context switching at the same rate.
Black Marublackmaru on April 7th, 2004 11:00 pm (UTC)
That story contains a big red herring - a population where "people have babies until they have a boy, then stop" will have the exact same gender distribution as a population where couples have as many babies as they want.

Any gender gap must be a result of other (likely more unpleasant) factors.
Kburgunder on April 8th, 2004 12:04 am (UTC)
Nothing quite like infanticide...
sigh.

I can't imagine what it would be like to be a woman who gives birth, loses her daughter, gives birth, loses her daughter, gives birth, gets to keep the son. They live in a completely different universe from me. Would she have self-misogyny? Would she despise the son? Is it such an accepted thing that she just accepts it and moves on?

I may not like the current president, but damn do I still love this country.