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30 September 2008 @ 09:14 pm

Alt. x-axis:
Number of character names with a minimum of two Ys in their name.

As in:
Myrkyra and Styrlyma drew their krytoses in unison, stepping in front of the Fra'as Plygelmy and Dorynydd and their little Farmling friend, Dydremdykanym.
Artemis Jones: Callioperimrunner on October 1st, 2008 04:57 am (UTC)
It's funny cause it's true.

People like to blame Tolkien for the phenomenon, but his words were not so much made up as no longer used...
Stray Cat: dubiousocicat on October 1st, 2008 05:22 am (UTC)
Hopefully there's a Lewis Carroll exception...
Kburgunder on October 1st, 2008 05:24 am (UTC)
Yep. The exception is embedded in the actual syndication, but I was too lazy to do it.
MoonSilencemoonsilence on October 1st, 2008 06:00 am (UTC)
Can Dune be an exception to this one? I mean, it needed a glossary, but it was worth it.
nplusmnplusm on October 1st, 2008 01:50 pm (UTC)
So very true. It reminds me of a comment from my favorite comic strip...

"Yes, I get it, it's Star Wars, but why say 'like a plasmid through a neutrino field?', is there no butter in space or hot knives to cut with?"
nplusmnplusm on October 1st, 2008 01:52 pm (UTC)
When the xkcd guy gets older, he's going to create a chart of ages and perceptual blindness to accordance.

Herbert, Tolkien, and Dodgson....three great authors who really...aren't.
Varnvarn_ix on October 1st, 2008 02:43 pm (UTC)
He's making fun of things he doesn't understand. If you're going to have new concepts, you need to name them!

I tried writing some pages of SF without invented words. You know what? It was -boring-. And of course, I'm an excellent writer. So there.
nplusmnplusm on October 1st, 2008 09:56 pm (UTC)
Yes, I agree, new concepts need new words.

However, old concepts like "children" "elders" and "swords" do not.

I think if you require renaming existing nouns to make your writing "other worldly", and are unable to set the stage with new concepts or images, you're a hack.

See Heinlein. He loves remaking existing words into something else.

The only time this is allowed, in my book, is when you are taking somebody from the existing past to a future or other world, to provide a contrast between the "our world" character and the "new world" characters.

However, if there are no "our world" characters, it's no good.
Prince of Happinesspoh on October 1st, 2008 03:08 pm (UTC)
Keep your fork there's pie!: Books.jennaxide on October 1st, 2008 06:53 pm (UTC)
Hilarious! I blogged about this very phenomenon in Fantasy novels here. This is a great example of how a few brilliant minds stand out from the rest of the word-making-up pack. Oodles and gobs of authors make up words, but the only ones that get credit are the ones that get popular for whatever reason. (I should point out that I strongly encourage making up new words. Play, play, play with language. But don't treat them as gospel, you know. If they stick, great. If not, go dream up something else :)
blackflymetadragon on October 8th, 2008 08:27 pm (UTC)
What have you got against the Welsh!?