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19 February 2009 @ 11:12 am
Taoism Objectivism  
I'm an objectivist and a taoist,
And I know why these don't conflict.

He who considers wealth to be right will not part with his earnings.
He who considers prominence to be right will not part with his fame.
He who is partial to power will not share its handle with others.
Grasping them, he trembles; letting go of them, he grieves.
Yet he has not the slightest introspection to perceive that which he ceaselessly pursues.
- Chuang Tzu (trans. Victor Mair)

I love that.

It defines for me beautifully what objectivism is all about (to me). Nevermind wealth, nevermind prominence, nevermind power, bitches I’m good at this. While you best pay me for my skills, I glory first and foremost in my skill and integrity. If you can provide something to me I need, what can I do for you? Let's go. Power isn't even relevant.

That’s how I feel about it.

Oh, sure, feel free to debate me, I'm game, but I wonder if anyone sees what I'm getting at and feels the same way. I'll take all the disagreement and abuse in the world for one person who quietly says, "Yeah. That."
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Greymalkingreymalkin on February 20th, 2009 12:24 am (UTC)
Thank you. [Again.]
[Reposted from replying first to quoted entry. Oops.]

I've spent many a year trying to resolve my intellectual preference for Objectivism with the Asian and Pagan philosophies I also prefer. You have just given me the key to the answer, and I thank you for it.

[You'd think, as a Priest of Lugh, God of Skills, I'd've figured it out on my own, but I'm also a bit dense, much of the time. ;]

You have a fight or fuck cult? How do I sign up?

Kburgunder on February 20th, 2009 12:50 am (UTC)
Re: Thank you. [Again.]
Ah, this is so one of many reasons why I love you, my muchly missed good friend.

The first key for me was the sandwich shop scene in Atlas Shrugged. Not taking for granted the simple pleasure of making a sandwich. And bam, there it was.

Yeah. That.

You have a fight or fuck cult? How do I sign up?

GRiN Resonance is all that's necessary for membership, so you're in.
Schmischmi on February 20th, 2009 04:09 am (UTC)
I was an Objectivist through most of my teens and twenties. It took me that long to get cured of it.

If it works for you, great! As for me, while I am still a staunch capitalist and I greatly value many ideas from Ayn Rand's philosophy, a lot of it was greatly flawed. The world isn't as black and white as she drew it. Without the shades of gray and the colors, this life isn't worth living.
Angerieangerie on February 20th, 2009 04:08 pm (UTC)
I've been thinking about this.

That abstraction - that money is only a means of exchanging value for value - is important.

There are some people who float through their life without defining for themselves what is important, what they value. So they do the 'right' thing and accumulate cash and accumulate things to represent the accumulated cash - thinking this is the destination.

If they come to the revelation that the things and the cash are empty, it's because they're empty.

I like how you view money as a tool and so consciously audit where and how you spend it. I think you have it right.