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03 April 2009 @ 10:43 am
It's a 1168 page book, so honest, I'm not quoting it nearly as often as I could O:>  
"I know the unimportance of suffering, I know that pain is to be fought and thrown aside, not to be accepted as part of one's soul and as a permanent scar across one's view of existence."
- JG, Atlas Shrugged, Ayn Rand

I know it. I learned it the hard way!

There are people who try to connect to each other by sharing their stories, how they handled something, what an experience is like, and that's a different thing. Maybe even a noble thing, I think.

Ever met one of those people who always has to one-up your tragedy or worry? Or who justifies cruelty with stories of their suffering? Or who's comfortable with the pain, and never even tried to fight it?

This is what we don't understand when we do that. We think the scars, like facets of a diamond, make us shinier, give us depth. The only thing we have in common with diamonds, though, is that we will cut you, and deeply. Be weary wary.
Current Music: "Magdaleine" - L.A. Guns
ciroccocirocco on April 3rd, 2009 06:07 pm (UTC)
Weary or wary?
Kburgunder on April 3rd, 2009 08:33 pm (UTC)
It causes weary, so be wary.

That's how I'm going to remember the difference.
sculptruth on April 3rd, 2009 07:59 pm (UTC)
I suppose I have been either of those people at times. Reaching out and connecting is hard. I can only hope that during these kinds of times, in hardship, we can share on some level of nurture for one another. I have a lot to learn about nurture. But a hard lesson has recently made it apparent I've got to begin.
Angerieangerie on April 3rd, 2009 08:19 pm (UTC)
This is one of the rocking-est things about you and JF. That suffering is not a part of your souls, not a permanent scar. There may be certain bits of information, certain stimuli, certain events that a person is knocked down with and potentially cut by. Friends are good to keep for these times. But you guys, you process fully, you decide to heal, you put the experience away where it belongs. Triumphs out of the things that excuse other people from living whole lives.

I know I'm supposed to send that back. I will. I just like it where it is.
Schmischmi on April 3rd, 2009 11:09 pm (UTC)
czochralskiczochalski on April 3rd, 2009 11:47 pm (UTC)
So there was this once..... ;-)

I have been enjoying the quotes from that book so much that I'm simply going to have to read it.

You do post a wonderful reminder that one should strive to be a better listener and not a louder talker.

Varnvarn_ix on April 4th, 2009 10:19 pm (UTC)
Something's burning a hole in my pocket
Oh, look, two cents.

So yeah, do you know that Ayn Rand is mentioned on the back of America: Democracy Inaction? I find it somewhat true, what it says. Nevertheless, Atlas Shrugged is one of the books that made a difference for me, and not just in affirming my decision that if ever I write, I will not use three sentences where one would suffice. Fact is that reality is what it is, and you need to deal with it or forever have these clashes between what you wrongly imagine and what comes to be. The engineer in me nods wisely. But the emerging project manager and customer relationship caretaker, they say, yes, but! We operate in a society where much of what we want depends on other people. People's perceptions of reality often make all the difference between a successful project (after which there is a dinner, a fat bonus, much patting on the back and a new project with a bigger budget) and something that unravels halfway through and dies (after which there is a polite explanation that future budgets were reassigned due to 'this economy').

Err, yes. Sorry. Pain and scars. I'm probably fortunate that the worst abuse I've suffered was some light pistol-whipping by members of the underground, but even that I'd brought upon myself and am counting myself fortunate to have escaped with kneecaps intact. But the incident and what caused it were an extremely efficient education. In this regard I see scars, physical or mental, as experience points, provided one is able to come to terms with the experience.

Ongoing or repetitive pain is somewhat different. It's usually distracting (always, for me, so I'm against it) but it can be a motivator. However, -living with- the pain may suggest you're trying to desensitize yourself to it, which can be good if what you're trying to do is impossible without the pain. It is often a source of satisfaction to have developed yourself in this fashion.